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I don’t know about anybody else, but I understand this reaction completely.

I have one sister and two brothers, and like anyone who lives with others for an extended amount of time - accidental walk ins happen all the time.

It does not, however, keep me from wanting to claw my eyes out any less though.

I know how Charles gets a lot of shit for his treatment of Raven, and this particular scene is mentioned quite a bit, but I don’t see this as him rejecting Raven’s mutation.

All I see is an older brother being highly uncomfortable with his little sister’s nudity. Which is, IMO, normal.

THIS. THIS ALL OVER. I get really annoyed whenever I see Charles getting so much stick over this. I know I wouldn’t be comfortable if my brother or sister waltzed into the kitchen naked, blue scales or not. He is not trying to oppress her mutation, he’s awkward because his sister is stood there nekkid.

very much agreed. Charles is the most privileged, ignorant of that privilege, cocky and self-centered of the mutants we meet in First Class, and he proves that quite often throughout the film, but this wasn’t one of those moments. it was just his brain going, “OH GOD, NAKED SISTER IN KITCHEN, ABORT ABORT.”

It’s also a sign of how much in his mind he actually does kind of view her body as just as human as anyone else’s. Most people (who were fine with her being a mutant) would be fine with her nudity because it isn’t the same as humans. The fact that he is uncomfortable with her being nude regardless of her body shows how he really does view her as the same and loves her just as a brother would love any ‘normal’ sister.

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Agreed. When I saw this movie recently, all I wanted to do was slap Charles. He may be kind-hearted and have good intentions, but that’s pretty much as far as that goes. He is indeed priveleged, and like many priveleged folks, he is ignorant of that privelege - in his case, unto abuse. (Rooting around in people’s minds without permission is NOT OK!) But I don’t think he mis-treated Raven. I think this was simply an open-and-shut case of unrequited love.

If it wasn’t clear enough that he sees her as a little sister from all the other contextual clues, he out and out tells her earlier on in the movie. He loves Raven very much, but it’s not romantic. I don’t know why he would receive shit from that, unrequited love is a normal occurrence.

Also, as an aside, I’d like to add that Raven is a wee bit unusual in the fact that she falls for Charles. Growing up with someone is a big deal, and it basically renders most folks physically and psychologically unable to have sexual/romantic feelings for their co-homies. It’s why siblings who grew up together tend NOT to fall in love - whether one or more of the siblings are adopted doesn’t matter. (I’m afraid I long ago lost track of the article that went into detail on this.) Charles is exhibiting a normal attachment to Raven; Raven is a bit out of the norm, if only just, in the nature of her attachment to Charles. (I suspect it’s because they met when they were on the cusp of puberty, but that just me.)

It’s call the westermarck effect. When people grew up together or even later in life, if you live with someone for many year, that will reduce the sexual attraction. Child who grew together (family, or in a close community) will have a very low chance of being together later in life. The point is probably to counter the fact that you are more attracted to people who are the same to you (which would end up being your family). That’s why brother and sister who don’t grew up together and meet later have bigger sexual attraction than with most (doesn’t mean they act on it, just saying).

So yeah, that kind of bugged me in the movie too. I somehow think she is not attracted by Charles, she just seek his acceptance and do it the wrong way. His reaction is completely normal.

I agree—I think Raven seeks acceptance from Charles and doesn’t realize that he thinks of her as “normal.” He knows she’s a mutant, and he doesn’t treat her differently, but somehow Raven thinks he does…or she expects he will treat her differently at some point.

In response to the original post—I agree that Charles’s reaction was to seeing his little sister naked, a natural feeling of being uncomfortable, and not that he was reacting to her mutant form. If she walked into the kitchen naked in her human form, he would have reacted the same way.

(Source: telediction)

Posted January 27, 2012 at 5:58pm in x-men first class charles xavier raven this is why I love tumblr || home